Difference between revisions of "The name Even Jolon"

From FireSpeakerWiki
Jump to navigationJump to search
(Created page with "In short, both names mean "stone" and "fortunate" == The name Even == There are two etymologies (/meanings) we're aware of for the name '''Even''': * Hebrew '''אבן''' (...")
 
Line 1: Line 1:
In short, both names mean "stone" and "fortunate"
+
In short, both names mean "stone" (''having a strong character'') and "fortunate"
  
 
== The name Even ==
 
== The name Even ==
Line 9: Line 9:
 
* Norwegian '''Even''', "gift winner"<br />''implying being fortunate''
 
* Norwegian '''Even''', "gift winner"<br />''implying being fortunate''
 
** ([[:w:Even (given name)|notable people named Even]])
 
** ([[:w:Even (given name)|notable people named Even]])
 
  
 
== The name Jolon ==
 
== The name Jolon ==
The Kyrgyz name '''Jolon''' ('''Жолон''') is fairly rare.  Besides a few notable people throughout history, not much is known about the name.  The Kazakh version is Jolan (Жолан), but we are not aware of definite equivalents in other languages.
+
The Kyrgyz name '''Jolon''' ('''Жолон''') is fairly rare.  Besides a couple notable [historic] figures, not much is known about the name.  The Kazakh version is Jolan (Жолан), but we are not aware of definite equivalents in other languages.
  
 
* Potential etymologies:
 
* Potential etymologies:
Line 18: Line 17:
 
** From the Turkic word jol (Kyrgyz/Kazakh '''жол''', Turkish '''yol'''), meaning "road, path, way".  There are two sub-etymologies:
 
** From the Turkic word jol (Kyrgyz/Kazakh '''жол''', Turkish '''yol'''), meaning "road, path, way".  There are two sub-etymologies:
 
*** This word is used in a number of expressions about luck and fortune, probably the most basic of which is Kyrgyz жолу бол- (literally, "for someone's path to exist"), meaning basically "to be fortunate" (e.g., "жолум болду", literally "my path existed", meaning "I lucked out / I was fortunate").  Also Kyrgyz жолдуу, literally "having a path", means "fortunate".  So Jolon would be some unknown morphological formation of this word, meaning "fortunate"
 
*** This word is used in a number of expressions about luck and fortune, probably the most basic of which is Kyrgyz жолу бол- (literally, "for someone's path to exist"), meaning basically "to be fortunate" (e.g., "жолум болду", literally "my path existed", meaning "I lucked out / I was fortunate").  Also Kyrgyz жолдуу, literally "having a path", means "fortunate".  So Jolon would be some unknown morphological formation of this word, meaning "fortunate"
*** According to [http://kz.otyrar.kz/2013/05/zholan-eskertkish-ornatu%D2%93a-lajy%D2%9Bty-t%D2%B1l%D2%93a-ma/ one source], the famous Kazakh Jolan (see below) was named this way because he was born when his parents were travelling.
+
*** According to [http://kz.otyrar.kz/2013/05/zholan-eskertkish-ornatu%D2%93a-lajy%D2%9Bty-t%D2%B1l%D2%93a-ma/ one source], the famous Kazakh Jolan (see below) was named this way because he was born when his parents were travelling ("on the road").  Again, the formation would be morphologically curious.
  
 
* Notable people
 
* Notable people
 
** [[:w:Jolon Mamytov|Jolon Mamytov]], a Kyrgyz [[:w:aqyn|aqyn]]
 
** [[:w:Jolon Mamytov|Jolon Mamytov]], a Kyrgyz [[:w:aqyn|aqyn]]
 
** Jolan batyr, an 18th century Kazakh ambassador to China, and a younger (perhaps the youngest?) son of the famous Kazakh [[:w:biy|biy]], [[:w:Töle Biy|Töle Biy]]
 
** Jolan batyr, an 18th century Kazakh ambassador to China, and a younger (perhaps the youngest?) son of the famous Kazakh [[:w:biy|biy]], [[:w:Töle Biy|Töle Biy]]
 +
 +
* Other Jolons:
 +
** There is a [[:w:Jolon, California|Jolon, California]], Spanish spelling, potentially of an [[:w:Ohlone_languages|Ohlone]](?) word meaning [http://kestrel-press.com/pages/our-titles/monterey-county-place-names/sample-pages--jolon.php valley of dead trees].  It's also the name of the setting of Steinbeck's [[:w:To a God Unknown|To a God Unknown]].
 +
** [http://www.jolonclarkfordenver.com/about.html Jolon Clark], a Colorado politican.

Revision as of 02:12, 1 August 2015

In short, both names mean "stone" (having a strong character) and "fortunate"

The name Even

There are two etymologies (/meanings) we're aware of for the name Even:

The name Jolon

The Kyrgyz name Jolon (Жолон) is fairly rare. Besides a couple notable [historic] figures, not much is known about the name. The Kazakh version is Jolan (Жолан), but we are not aware of definite equivalents in other languages.

  • Potential etymologies:
    • Borrowing of the Mongolian name Chuluun (Halh Чулуун), from Middle Mongolian čilaɣun, meaning "stone". (Suggested in Шамсабек Акылбеков's book on Chyngys Khan.)
    • From the Turkic word jol (Kyrgyz/Kazakh жол, Turkish yol), meaning "road, path, way". There are two sub-etymologies:
      • This word is used in a number of expressions about luck and fortune, probably the most basic of which is Kyrgyz жолу бол- (literally, "for someone's path to exist"), meaning basically "to be fortunate" (e.g., "жолум болду", literally "my path existed", meaning "I lucked out / I was fortunate"). Also Kyrgyz жолдуу, literally "having a path", means "fortunate". So Jolon would be some unknown morphological formation of this word, meaning "fortunate"
      • According to one source, the famous Kazakh Jolan (see below) was named this way because he was born when his parents were travelling ("on the road"). Again, the formation would be morphologically curious.
  • Notable people
    • Jolon Mamytov, a Kyrgyz aqyn
    • Jolan batyr, an 18th century Kazakh ambassador to China, and a younger (perhaps the youngest?) son of the famous Kazakh biy, Töle Biy