Non-productive morphemes in Turkic - Revision history

Firespeaker: /* -(A)LA */

2023-11-27T05:06:31Z

-(A)LA

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	* qubala- ← quu-		* qubala- ← quu-
	* jörgölö- ← *jörgö-		* jörgölö- ← *jörgö-
	*
			== -KILA ==
			* tepkile- ← tep-
			* çapqıla- ← çap-

	== -ç ==		== -ç ==

Firespeaker: /* -(I)M */

2023-11-27T04:07:09Z

-(I)M

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	* '''buyruq''' - ‘command’		* '''buyruq''' - ‘command’

	=== -(I)M ===		=== -(I)m ===
	* '''ağım''' - ‘flow’		* '''ağım''' - ‘flow’
	* '''kesim''' - ‘slice’		* '''kesim''' - ‘slice’

Firespeaker: /* r/z and l/ş alternations */

2023-11-27T04:03:20Z

r/z and l/ş alternations

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	* '''az''' - little (in quantity), '''araŋ''' - barely (Mo. '''arai''')		* '''az''' - little (in quantity), '''araŋ''' - barely (Mo. '''arai''')
	* '''uzaq''' - long; '''(y)ıraq''' - far		* '''uzaq''' - long; '''(y)ıraq''' - far
	* '''~~avuz~~''' - mouth; '''~~avurt~~''' - corner of mouth (?ağz, ağurt)		* '''ağuz''' - mouth; '''ağurt''' - corner of mouth (?ağz/ağurt)
	* '''jultuz''' - star; '''jultura'''- - sparkle		* '''jultuz''' - star; '''jultura'''- - sparkle
	* '''-siz''' - -less; '''-sira-''' - lose		* '''-siz''' - -less; '''-sira-''' - lose

Firespeaker: /* r/z and l/ş alternations */

2023-11-27T04:02:12Z

r/z and l/ş alternations

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	* '''-siz''' - -less; '''-sira-''' - lose		* '''-siz''' - -less; '''-sira-''' - lose
	* '''-Ar''' / '''-mAz'''		* '''-Ar''' / '''-mAz'''
			* '''jalbız''' ; '''jalbıraq''' ?

	== Causatives ==		== Causatives ==

Firespeaker at 03:59, 27 November 2023

2023-11-27T03:59:15Z

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	* '''muŋ''' - grief; '''muŋay-''' - to be sad		* '''muŋ''' - grief; '''muŋay-''' - to be sad
	* '''qart''' - old (person); '''qartay-''' - to get old (v.i.)		* '''qart''' - old (person); '''qartay-''' - to get old (v.i.)
			* '''sarı''' - yellow; '''sarğay-''' - whither (v.i.)

	=== -sI (Adj→V) ===		=== -sI (Adj→V) ===
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	* '''juqa''' - thin (of flat things); '''juqar-''' - to get thin (v.i.)		* '''juqa''' - thin (of flat things); '''juqar-''' - to get thin (v.i.)
	* '''özgö''' - different/foreign; '''özgör-''' - to change (v.i.)		* '''özgö''' - different/foreign; '''özgör-''' - to change (v.i.)

			=== -(I)r, -(I)rA, etc. ===
	* '''jarıq''' - bright; '''jarqır-''' - flash (v.i.) ?		* '''jarıq''' - bright; '''jarqır-''' - flash (v.i.) ?
			* '''jelbire-'''; '''jel'''

	== r/z and l/ş alternations ==		== r/z and l/ş alternations ==
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	* '''qār''' (**qıra?) snow ~ '''qırağu''' (hoar)frost		* '''qār''' (**qıra?) snow ~ '''qırağu''' (hoar)frost

	== -(K)AK ==		== Adjective derivation ==
			=== -(K)AK ===
	V→A		V→A
	* '''jabışqaq''' - ‘sticky’		* '''jabışqaq''' - ‘sticky’
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	* '''siygek''' - ‘pisser’		* '''siygek''' - ‘pisser’

	== -sAK ==		=== -sAK ===
	* '''supsaq''' cf. suu		* '''supsaq''' cf. suu
	* '''boorsoq''' cf. boor		* '''boorsoq''' cf. boor

			=== -(I)K ===
	== -(I)K ==
	This -(I)K is V→A		This -(I)K is V→A
	* '''açıq''' ‘open’		* '''açıq''' ‘open’
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	... No, this is too productive		... No, this is too productive

	== -MAl ==		=== -MAl ===
	These might just be Mongolian words in Kyrgyz?		These might just be Mongolian words in Kyrgyz?
	* '''saamal''' - horse milk (< '''saa-''' - to milk (could be Turkic or Mongolic))		* '''saamal''' - horse milk (< '''saa-''' - to milk (could be Turkic or Mongolic))
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	* tatınaqay - ~cute (< tatuu - sweet)		* tatınaqay - ~cute (< tatuu - sweet)
	* kiçinekey - little (< kiçüü - ~small)		* kiçinekey - little (< kiçüü - ~small)

			== -(A)LA ==
			V → V; adds iterativity to meaning
			* tebele- ← tep-
			* qubala- ← quu-
			* jörgölö- ← *jörgö-
			*

	== -ç ==		== -ç ==

Firespeaker: continuing to move things around a bit

2023-11-27T03:52:03Z

continuing to move things around a bit

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	* '''osurak''' - ‘farter’		* '''osurak''' - ‘farter’
	* '''siygek''' - ‘pisser’		* '''siygek''' - ‘pisser’


	== -sAK ==		== -sAK ==
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	* '''boorsoq''' cf. boor		* '''boorsoq''' cf. boor

	~~== -AçAK ==~~
	* keleçek - "future"
	* Kazakh bolaşaq - "future"

	~~== -KIn ==~~
	* '''qaçqın''' - ‘runaway, fugitive’
	* '''taşqın''' - ‘flood’
	* '''turğun''' - ‘resident’
	* '''jutqınçaq''' - ‘adam's apple’

	== -(I)K ==		== -(I)K ==
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	* '''taanımal''' - familiar		* '''taanımal''' - familiar

	== -KA ==		=== -KA ===
	V??→N ??		V??→N ??
	* '''jumurtqa''' - ‘egg’		* '''jumurtqa''' - ‘egg’
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	* '''kesirtke''' (Kazakh) - ‘lizard’		* '''kesirtke''' (Kazakh) - ‘lizard’

	== -KI (V→N) ==		=== -KI (V→N) ===
	* '''açıtqı''' - yeast		* '''açıtqı''' - yeast
	* '''şıpırğı''' - broom		* '''şıpırğı''' - broom
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	* OTk. '''içkü''' - a drink		* OTk. '''içkü''' - a drink

	== -dAK ==		=== -dAK ===
	V>N, N>A?		V>N, N>A?
	* şırı- - "quilt"; '''şırdaq''' - felt rug		* şırı- - "quilt"; '''şırdaq''' - felt rug
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	* чаңдак		* чаңдак
	* чардак gull		* чардак gull

			=== -AçAK ===
			* keleçek - "future"
			* Kazakh bolaşaq - "future"

			=== -KIn ===
			* '''qaçqın''' - ‘runaway, fugitive’
			* '''taşqın''' - ‘flood’
			* '''turğun''' - ‘resident’
			* '''jutqınçaq''' - ‘adam's apple’

	== -nAKAy ==		== -nAKAy ==

Firespeaker at 03:50, 27 November 2023

2023-11-27T03:50:24Z

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	* '''sür''' - jerked (meat); '''sürsü-''' - be jerked (meat)		* '''sür''' - jerked (meat); '''sürsü-''' - be jerked (meat)

	== ∅ (X↔V?) ==		=== ∅ (X↔V?) ===
	* '''köp''' - a lot; '''köp-''' - to swell, get big (in volume, not mass), rise (of dough)		* '''köp''' - a lot; '''köp-''' - to swell, get big (in volume, not mass), rise (of dough)
	* '''toŋ''' - frozen ground(?); '''toŋ-''' - to freeze (v.i.)		* '''toŋ''' - frozen ground(?); '''toŋ-''' - to freeze (v.i.)
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	* '''sağ''' - intellect (n.); '''saq-''' - think, consider		* '''sağ''' - intellect (n.); '''saq-''' - think, consider

	== -Ar (Adj→V) ==		=== -(A)r (Adj→V) ===
	* '''suu''' - water / wet; '''suğar-''' - to water (v.t.)		* '''suu''' - water / wet; '''suğar-''' - to water (v.t.)
	* '''jaş''' - age (n.) / young; '''jaşar-''' - to get/look younger		* '''jaş''' - age (n.) / young; '''jaşar-''' - to get/look younger

Firespeaker at 03:48, 27 November 2023

2023-11-27T03:48:59Z

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Firespeaker: /* -Ay (N→V) */

2023-11-27T03:45:10Z

-Ay (N→V)

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	* '''muŋ''' - grief; '''muŋay-''' - to be sad		* '''muŋ''' - grief; '''muŋay-''' - to be sad
	* '''qart''' - old (person); '''qartay-''' - to get old (v.i.)		* '''qart''' - old (person); '''qartay-''' - to get old (v.i.)

			== -sI (Adj→V) ==
			* '''sür''' - jerked (meat); '''sürsü-''' - be jerked (meat)

	== r/z and l/ş alternations ==		== r/z and l/ş alternations ==

Firespeaker: /* Misc */

2020-12-15T04:29:04Z

Misc

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	* tatınaqay - ~cute (< tatuu - sweet)		* tatınaqay - ~cute (< tatuu - sweet)
	* kiçinekey - little (< kiçüü - ~small)		* kiçinekey - little (< kiçüü - ~small)

			== -ç ==
			* тынч ← тын-
			* бурч ← бур-
			* курч ← кур- ?

	== Misc ==		== Misc ==