Turkic phonemic transcription - Revision history

Firespeaker at 03:17, 23 September 2010

2010-09-23T03:17:39Z

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	* Parentheses can mean a non-native phoneme, like with "(в /v/)", or a non-native phoneme represented by a grapheme used also for a native phoneme, like with "в (/v/)". The can also mean a phoneme not normally recognised as being represented by a single orthographic convention, like "(уб /w/)", or a phoneme found only in certain dialects, and hence not distinguished orthographically in those dialects, like with "(k /q/)".		* Parentheses can mean a non-native phoneme, like with "(в /v/)", or a non-native phoneme represented by a grapheme used also for a native phoneme, like with "в (/v/)". The can also mean a phoneme not normally recognised as being represented by a single orthographic convention, like "(уб /w/)", or a phoneme found only in certain dialects, and hence not distinguished orthographically in those dialects, like with "(k /q/)".

	[[Category:Turkic ~~languages~~]]		[[Category:Turkic Languages]]

Firespeaker: ş, Uzbek ts

2009-04-08T01:02:03Z

ş, Uzbek ts

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	\|-		\|-
	! c		! c
	\|colspan="2" align="center"\| (ц /ts/) \|\| җ /ʤ/ʓ/ \|\| c /ʤ/ \|\| ц /ts/		\|colspan="2" align="center"\| (ц /ts/) \|\| җ /ʤ/ʓ/ \|\| c /ʤ/ \|\| ts /ts/
	\|-		\|-
	! ç		! ç
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	! q		! q
	\| қ /q/ \|\| к /q/ \|\| к /q/ \|\| (k /q/) \|\| q /q/		\| қ /q/ \|\| к /q/ \|\| к /q/ \|\| (k /q/) \|\| q /q/
			\|-
			! ş
			\| ш /ʃ/ \|\| ш /ʃ/ \|\| ш /ʃ/ \|\| ş /ʃ/ \|\| sh /ʃ/
	\|-		\|-
	! u		! u
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	* various languages' dialectal forms have been included (in parentheses), though orthography usually assumed based on standard dialect.		* various languages' dialectal forms have been included (in parentheses), though orthography usually assumed based on standard dialect.
	* Turkish is transcribed as-is usually, which is problematic, because spelling isn't always in-line with this system, at least not in terms of correspondence to other languages (e.g. ‹c›).		* Turkish is transcribed as-is usually, which is problematic, because spelling isn't always in-line with this system, at least not in terms of correspondence to other languages (e.g. ‹c›).
	* Parentheses can mean a non-native phoneme, like with "(в /v/)", or a non-native phoneme represented by a grapheme used also for a native phoneme, like with "в (/v/)". The can also mean a phoneme not normally recognised as being represented by a single orthographic convention, like "(уб /w/)".		* Parentheses can mean a non-native phoneme, like with "(в /v/)", or a non-native phoneme represented by a grapheme used also for a native phoneme, like with "в (/v/)". The can also mean a phoneme not normally recognised as being represented by a single orthographic convention, like "(уб /w/)", or a phoneme found only in certain dialects, and hence not distinguished orthographically in those dialects, like with "(k /q/)".

	[[Category:Turkic languages]]		[[Category:Turkic languages]]

Firespeaker at 00:58, 8 April 2009

2009-04-08T00:58:39Z

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	\|-		\|-
	! c		! c
	\|colspan="2" align="center"\| ц /ts/ \|\| җ /ʤ/ʓ/ \|\| c /ʤ/ \|\| ц /ts/		\|colspan="2" align="center"\| (ц /ts/) \|\| җ /ʤ/ʓ/ \|\| c /ʤ/ \|\| ц /ts/
	\|-		\|-
	! ç		! ç
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	! ŋ		! ŋ
	\| ң /ŋ/ \|\| ң /ŋ/ \|\| ң /ŋ/ \|\| — /ŋ/ \|\| (ng /ŋ(g)/)		\| ң /ŋ/ \|\| ң /ŋ/ \|\| ң /ŋ/ \|\| — /ŋ/ \|\| (ng /ŋ(g)/)
			\|-
			! ń/ñ
			\| — \|\| — \|\| — \|\| — \|\| —
	\|-		\|-
	! o		! o
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	\|-		\|-
	! v		! v
	\| (в /v/) \|\| (в ~~/v/) \|\|~~ (в /v/) \|\| v /v/ \|\| v /v/		\|colspan="2" align="center"\| (в /v/) \|\|\| в (/v/) \| v /v/ \|\| v /v/
	\|-		\|-
	! w		! w
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	* various languages' dialectal forms have been included (in parentheses), though orthography usually assumed based on standard dialect.		* various languages' dialectal forms have been included (in parentheses), though orthography usually assumed based on standard dialect.
	* Turkish is transcribed as-is usually, which is problematic, because spelling isn't always in-line with this system, at least not in terms of correspondence to other languages (e.g. ‹c›).		* Turkish is transcribed as-is usually, which is problematic, because spelling isn't always in-line with this system, at least not in terms of correspondence to other languages (e.g. ‹c›).
			* Parentheses can mean a non-native phoneme, like with "(в /v/)", or a non-native phoneme represented by a grapheme used also for a native phoneme, like with "в (/v/)". The can also mean a phoneme not normally recognised as being represented by a single orthographic convention, like "(уб /w/)".

	[[Category:Turkic languages]]		[[Category:Turkic languages]]

Firespeaker: not complete note

2009-02-10T05:48:45Z

not complete note

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	I use a version of the Turkish alphabet (more similar to the Latin alphabet used for Tatar) to represent Turkic languages phonemically. This tries to summarise the system.		I use a version of the Turkish alphabet (more similar to the Latin alphabet used for Tatar) to represent Turkic languages phonemically. This tries to summarise the system (but is not complete yet).

	{\|class="wikitable"		{\|class="wikitable"

Firespeaker at 05:47, 10 February 2009

2009-02-10T05:47:51Z

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 |-
 ! ä
-| ә /æ/ || — /a~æ/ || ә /æ/ || — || a /æ/
+| ә /æ/ || — /a~æ/ || ә /æ/ || (e /æ/) || a /æ/
 |-
 ! aa, ā
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 |-
 ! c
-|colspan="5" align="center"| ц /ts/
+|colspan="2" align="center"| ц /ts/ || җ /ʤ/ʓ/ || c /ʤ/ || ц /ts/
 |-
 ! ç
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 ! ee, ē
 | — || ээ /eː/ || — || — || —
 |-
 ! i
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 ! ı
 | ы /ə/ || ы /ɯ/ || ы /ə/ || ı /ɯ/ || —
 |}
 [[Category:Turkic languages]]

Firespeaker at 05:51, 23 January 2009

2009-01-23T05:51:33Z

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	! c		! c
	\|colspan="5" align="center"\| ц /ts/		\|colspan="5" align="center"\| ц /ts/
			\|-
	! ç		! ç
	\| — \|\| ч /ʧ/ \|\| ч /ʧ~ʃ/ \|\| ç /ʧ/ \|\| ch /ʧ/		\| — \|\| ч /ʧ/ \|\| ч /ʧ~ʃ/ \|\| ç /ʧ/ \|\| ch /ʧ/

Firespeaker at 05:51, 23 January 2009

2009-01-23T05:51:12Z

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	\|-		\|-
	! b		! b
	\| б /b/ \|\| б /b~w/ \|\| б /b/ \|\| b /b/		\| б /b/ \|\| б /b~w/ \|\| б /b/ \|\| b /b/ \|\| b /b/
			\|-
			! c
			\|colspan="5" align="center"\| ц /ts/
			! ç
			\| — \|\| ч /ʧ/ \|\| ч /ʧ~ʃ/ \|\| ç /ʧ/ \|\| ch /ʧ/
	\|-		\|-
	! e		! e
	\| е /i̯ɘ/ \|\| e, э /e/ \|\| e /ɘ/ \|\| e /ɛ/		\| е /i̯ɘ/ \|\| e, э /e/ \|\| e /ɘ/ \|\| e /ɛ/ \|\| e /e/
	\|-		\|-
	! ee, ē		! ee, ē
	\| — \|\| ээ /eː/ \|\| — \|\| —		\| — \|\| ээ /eː/ \|\| — \|\| — \|\| —
	\|-		\|-
	! i		! i
	\| і /ɘ/ \|\| и /i/ \|\| и /i/ \|\| i /ɪ/ \|\| i /ɨ/		\| і /ɘ/ \|\| и /i/ \|\| и /i/ \|\| i /ɪ/ \|\| i /ɨ/
			\|-
			! ı
			\| ы /ə/ \|\| ы /ɯ/ \|\| ы /ə/ \|\| ı /ɯ/ \|\| —
	\|}		\|}

	[[Category:Turkic languages]]		[[Category:Turkic languages]]

Firespeaker at 05:44, 23 January 2009

2009-01-23T05:44:54Z

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	\|-		\|-
	! a		! a
	\| а /a/ \| а /ɑ/ \| а /ɒ/ \| а /ɑ/ \| a /a/		\| а /a/ \|\| а /ɑ/ \|\| а /ɒ/ \|\| а /ɑ/ \|\| a /a/
	\|-		\|-
	! ä		! ä
	\| ә /æ/ \| — /a~æ/ \| ә /æ/ \| — \| a /æ/		\| ә /æ/ \|\| — /a~æ/ \|\| ә /æ/ \|\| — \|\| a /æ/
	\|-		\|-
	! aa, ā		! aa, ā
	\| — \| аа /ɑː/ \| — \| ağ(a) /ɑː/ \| —		\| — \|\| аа /ɑː/ \|\| — \|\| ağ(a) /ɑː/ \|\| —
	\|-		\|-
	! â, å		! â, å
	\| — \| — /ɔ/ \| — \| а /ɒ/ \| — \| o /ɒ~ɔ/		\| — \|\| — /ɔ/ \|\| а /ɒ/ \|\| — \|\| o /ɒ~ɔ/
	\|-		\|-
	! b		! b
	\| б /b/ \| б /b~w/ \| б /b/ \| b /b/		\| б /b/ \|\| б /b~w/ \|\| б /b/ \|\| b /b/
	\|-		\|-
	! e		! e
	\| е /i̯ɘ/ \| e, э /e/ \| e /ɘ/ \| e /ɛ/		\| е /i̯ɘ/ \|\| e, э /e/ \|\| e /ɘ/ \|\| e /ɛ/
	\|-		\|-
	! ee, ē		! ee, ē
	\| — \| ээ /eː/ \| — \| —		\| — \|\| ээ /eː/ \|\| — \|\| —
	\|-		\|-
	! i		! i
	\|		\| і /ɘ/ \|\| и /i/ \|\| и /i/ \|\| i /ɪ/ \|\| i /ɨ/
	\|}		\|}

	[[Category:Turkic languages]]		[[Category:Turkic languages]]

Firespeaker at 05:41, 23 January 2009

2009-01-23T05:41:33Z

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	I use a version of the Turkish alphabet (more similar to the Latin alphabet used for Tatar) to represent Turkic languages phonemically. This tries to summarise the system.		I use a version of the Turkish alphabet (more similar to the Latin alphabet used for Tatar) to represent Turkic languages phonemically. This tries to summarise the system.

	{\|		{\|class="wikitable"
			\|-
	! orthography		! orthography
	! Kazakh		! Kazakh
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	! ä		! ä
	\| ә /æ/ \| — /a~æ/ \| ә /æ/ \| — \| a /æ/		\| ә /æ/ \| — /a~æ/ \| ә /æ/ \| — \| a /æ/
			\|-
	! aa, ā		! aa, ā
	\| — \| аа /ɑː/ \| — \| ağ(a) /ɑː/ \| —		\| — \| аа /ɑː/ \| — \| ağ(a) /ɑː/ \| —
			\|-
	! â, å		! â, å
	\| — \| — /ɔ/ \| — \| а /ɒ/ \| — \| o /ɒ~ɔ/		\| — \| — /ɔ/ \| — \| а /ɒ/ \| — \| o /ɒ~ɔ/
			\|-
	! b		! b
	\| б /b/ \| б /b~w/ \| б /b/ \| b /b/		\| б /b/ \| б /b~w/ \| б /b/ \| b /b/
			\|-
	! e		! e
	\| е /i̯ɘ/ \| e, э /e/ \| e /ɘ/ \| e /ɛ/		\| е /i̯ɘ/ \| e, э /e/ \| e /ɘ/ \| e /ɛ/
			\|-
	! ee, ē		! ee, ē
	\| — \| ээ /eː/ \| — \| —		\| — \| ээ /eː/ \| — \| —
			\|-
	! i		! i
	\|		\|

Firespeaker: New page: I use a version of the Turkish alphabet (more similar to the Latin alphabet used for Tatar) to represent Turkic languages phonemically. This tries to summarise the system. {| ! orthograp...

2009-01-23T05:40:54Z

New page: I use a version of the Turkish alphabet (more similar to the Latin alphabet used for Tatar) to represent Turkic languages phonemically. This tries to summarise the system. {| ! orthograp...

New page

I use a version of the Turkish alphabet (more similar to the Latin alphabet used for Tatar) to represent Turkic languages phonemically. This tries to summarise the system.

{|
! orthography
! Kazakh
! Kyrgyz
! Tatar
! Turkish
! Uzbek
|-
! a
| а /a/ | а /ɑ/ | а /ɒ/ | а /ɑ/ | a /a/
|-
! ä
| ә /æ/ | — /a~æ/ | ә /æ/ | — | a /æ/
! aa, ā
| — | аа /ɑː/ | — | ağ(a) /ɑː/ | —
! â, å
| — | — /ɔ/ | — | а /ɒ/ | — | o /ɒ~ɔ/
! b
| б /b/ | б /b~w/ | б /b/ | b /b/
! e
| е /i̯ɘ/ | e, э /e/ | e /ɘ/ | e /ɛ/
! ee, ē
| — | ээ /eː/ | — | —
! i
|
|}

[[Category:Turkic languages]]