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	Because "twenty hundred" is not okay in English, the previously only formal pattern was used colloquial, and the year 2000 was called "two thousand". Subsequent years followed this pattern due to the restriction on "{20, 30, etc.) oh ...": i.e., "two thousand one", "two thousand two", etc.		Because "twenty hundred" is not okay in English, the previously only formal pattern was used colloquial, and the year 2000 was called "two thousand". Subsequent years followed this pattern due to the restriction on "{20, 30, etc.) oh ...": i.e., "two thousand one", "two thousand two", etc.

	With the year 2010 a problem arose. The "two thousand ''n''" pattern was already in standard colloquial usage (and even before the year 2010 came around, foreseeable to be in standard usage), though the restriction which caused it ("twenty hundred", "twenty oh five") no longer applied. This meant that (by analogy?) "two thousand ten" became the preferred colloquial reading of what might otherwise be "twenty ten".		With the year 2010 a problem arose. The "two thousand ''n''" pattern was already in standard colloquial usage (and even before the year 2010 came around, foreseeable to be in standard usage), though the restriction which caused it ("twenty hundred", "twenty oh five") no longer applied. This meant that (by analogy?) "two thousand ten" became the preferred colloquial reading of what might otherwise be "twenty ten", though both appear to be used in current colloquial usage (in mid 2010).

	== Follow-up research ==		== Follow-up research ==
	There should be some research done to determine how the year was pronounced before the year 2000 rolled around, and before its first decade was commonly referred to in English. An example would be to see how Arthur C. Clarke pronounced the name of his 1982 novel and the subsequent 1984 film named "2010: Odyssey Two". This sort of information would help to sort out whether the preference for "two thousand ten" was due to ten years of saying "two thousand ''n''", or whether it would've been the default way of saying it before that too.		There should be some research done to determine how the year was pronounced before the year 2000 rolled around, and before its first decade was commonly referred to in English. An example would be to see how Arthur C. Clarke pronounced the name of his 1982 novel and the subsequent 1984 film named "2010: Odyssey Two". This sort of information would help to sort out whether the preference for "two thousand ten" was due to ten years of saying "two thousand ''n''", or whether it would've been the default way of saying it before that too.

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			This page is about how years are said and read (and written) in English.

			== Judgements ==

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	* ''sounds odd in most contexts or only okay formally''		* ''sounds odd in most contexts or only okay formally''
	* ''<s>not okay</s>''		* ''<s>not okay</s>''

	~~== Judgements ==~~

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{|class="wikitable"
|+ JNW's judgements about how different years can be said or read.
|-
!colspan="6"| 20th century
|-
| 1900
| <s>nineteen</s>
| <s>nineteen oh (oh?)</s>
| '''nineteen hundred'''
| ''one thousand nine hundred''
| <s>one thousand and nine hundred</s>
|-
| 1905
| <s>nineteen five</s>
| '''nineteen oh five'''
| ''nineteen hundred five''
| ''one thousand nine hundred five''
| ''one thousand nine hundred and five''
|-
| 1910
| '''nineteen ten'''
| <s>nineteen one oh</s>
| ''nineteen hundred ten''
| ''one thousand nine hundred ten''
| ''one thousand nine hundred and ten''
|-
| 1911
| '''nineteen eleven'''
| <s>nineteen one one</s>
| ''nineteen hundred elevent''
| ''one thousand nine hundred eleven''
| ''one thousand nine hundred and eleven''
|-
| 1920
| '''nineteen twenty'''
| <s>nineteen two oh</s>
| ''nineteen hundred twenty''
| ''one thousand nine hundred twenty''
| ''one thousand nine hundred and twenty''
|-
| 1995
| '''nineteen ninety five'''
| <s>nineteen nine five</s>
| ''nineteen hundred ninety five''
| ''one thousand nine hundred ninety five''
| ''one thousand nine hundred and ninety five''
|-
!colspan="6"| 21st century
|-
| 2000
| <s>twenty</s>
| <s>twenty oh (oh?)</s>
| <s>twenty hundred</s>
| '''two thousand'''
| two thousand
|-
| 2005
| <s>twenty five</s>
| ''twenty oh five''
| <s>twenty hundred five</s>
| '''two thousand five'''
| two thousand and five
|-
| 2010
| '''twenty ten'''
| <s>twenty one oh</s>
| <s>twenty hundred ten</s>
| '''two thousand ten'''
| two thousand and ten
|-
| 2011
| '''twenty eleven'''
| <s>twenty one one</s>
| <s>twenty hundred eleven</s>
| '''two thousand eleven'''
| ''two thousand and eleven''
|-
| 2020
| '''twenty twenty'''
| <s>twenty two oh</s>
| <s>twenty hundred twenty</s>
| '''two thousand twenty'''
| ''two thousand and twenty''
|-
| 2095
| '''twenty ninety five'''
| <s>twenty nine five</s>
| <s>twenty hundred ninety-five</s>
| '''two thousand ninety-five'''
| ''two thousand and ninety-five''
|-
!colspan="6"| 22nd century
|-
| 2100
| <s>twenty one</s>
| <s>twenty one oh (oh?)</s>
| '''twenty one hundred'''
| ''two thousand one hundred''
| <s>two thousand and one hundred</s>
|-
| 2105
| <s>twenty one five</s>
| '''twenty one oh five'''
| ''twenty one hundred five''
| ''two thousand one hundred five''
| ''two thousand one hundred and five''
|-
| 2110
| '''twenty one ten'''
| <s>twenty one one oh</s>
| ''twenty one hundred ten''
| ''two thousand one hundred ten''
| ''two thousand one hundred and ten''
|-
| 2111
| '''twenty one eleven'''
| <s>twenty one one one</s>
| ''twenty one hundred eleven''
| ''two thousand one hundred eleven''
| ''two thousand one hundred and eleven''
|-
| 2120
| '''twenty one twenty'''
| <s>twenty one two oh</s>
| ''twenty one hundred twenty''
| ''two thousand one hundred twenty''
| ''two thousand one hundred and twenty''
|-
| 2195
| '''twenty one ninety five'''
| <s>twenty one nine five</s>
| ''twenty one hundred ninety-five''
| ''two thousand one ninety-five''
| ''two thousand one ninety-five''
|}