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*** unrounded variants for comparison? | *** unrounded variants for comparison? | ||
** second experiment | ** second experiment | ||
*** C₀iyiC₀ | *** C₀iyiC₀: biyik, iyin, iyil-, iyir-, жийиркен-, кийин | ||
*** C₀üüC₀ | *** C₀eyiC₀: чейин, | ||
*** C₀eeC₀ | *** C₀üüC₀: күү | ||
*** C₀ööC₀ | **** any verb ending in /I/, +U: | ||
*** C₀ooC₀ | *** C₀eeC₀: ээр, бээ, зээн(дүү), кээ, ээ | ||
*** C₀aaC₀ | *** C₀ööC₀: бөөт, жөө, жөөк, жөөл-, сөөк, сөөл, сөөмөй | ||
*** C₀ıyıC₀ | **** any verb ending in /E/, +U: | ||
*** C₀uuC₀ | *** C₀ooC₀: жооп, тоо, суроо, жоон, жоош, жоомарт, соода, самоор | ||
*** C₀iyC₀ | **** any verb ending in /A/, +U: | ||
*** C₀üyC₀ | *** C₀aaC₀: заар+, '''саа-''', саадак, саамай, '''саат''', сааль, таажы, таалай+, таамай, таан, таалим, тааны-, таарын-, таасир, '''жаан''', '''жаа-''', '''туу''', туура, ураан | ||
*** C₀eyC₀ | *** C₀ıyıC₀: жыйырма, сыйын-, сыйыртмак | ||
*** C₀öyC₀ | *** C₀uyuC₀: суюк, уюк, уюм, уюл, | ||
*** C₀üyüC₀: | |||
*** C₀uuC₀: суу, уу, | |||
**** any verb ending in /U/, +U: | |||
*** C₀iyC₀: ийри, ийр-, ийне, ийке-, ийгилик, ий, | |||
*** C₀üyC₀: үй, сүй-, күй, үйлөн-, үйрөн-, үйрөт-, | |||
*** C₀eyC₀: сейрек | |||
*** C₀öyC₀: сөөмөй | |||
*** (C₀oyC₀) | *** (C₀oyC₀) | ||
*** | *** C₀ıyC₀: сый, сыйлык, сыйлуу, | ||
*** C₀uyC₀: уй, | |||
*** C₀uyC₀ | |||
** second, part 3 (if noun ending in diphthong:) | ** second, part 3 (if noun ending in diphthong:) | ||
*** all above +NI | *** all above +NI | ||
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*** what about high vowels? | *** what about high vowels? | ||
** third experiment | ** third experiment | ||
*** C₀Vz.C₁V: | *** C₀Vz.C₁V: изде-, жезде, | ||
**** nouns (+NI/+DA/+DAn/-): туз, сөз, муз, кыз, көз, каз, мазь, саз, сиз, түз, | **** nouns (+NI/+DA/+DAn/-): туз, сөз, муз, кыз, көз, каз, мазь, саз, сиз, түз, | ||
**** verbs (-DI/-GAn/-ÇU/-IL/etc): сүз-, сез-, суз-, | **** verbs (-DI/-GAn/-ÇU/-IL/etc): сүз-, сез-, суз-, | ||
*** C₀VzV: таза, база, бозо, козу (карын) | *** C₀VzV: таза, база, бозо, козу (карын), изилде-, | ||
*** what about long vowels: | *** what about long vowels: | ||
**** adjs: кооз | **** adjs: кооз | ||
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**** verbs: бас- | **** verbs: бас- | ||
**** nouns: | **** nouns: | ||
*** C₀Vd.C₀V: куду, лада, | *** C₀Vd.C₀V: куду, лада, убада | ||
*** C₀Vt.C₀V: | *** C₀Vt.C₀V: | ||
**** verbs: күт- | **** verbs: күт- | ||
**** nouns: бут, сүт, сот, кут | **** nouns: бут, сүт, сот, кут | ||
*** C₀VG.C₀V: тиги | *** C₀VG.C₀V: тиги, жогот-, жогор+, жогол-, жигит, жигин(?), дагы | ||
*** C₀Vb.C₀V: тобо, саба | *** C₀Vb.C₀V: тобо, саба, жибит, убада, '''чабан''' | ||
*** C₀Vj.C₀V: бажа | *** C₀Vj.C₀V: бажа | ||
** fourth (words with ä/a:) | ** fourth (words with ä/a:) |
Revision as of 11:47, 15 April 2008
Linguistic topics
What to look at
- Rounding harmony systems
- How far through a word harmony spreads
- Monopthongisation — phonetic and phonological
- Tonogenesis
- Acoustic properties of vowel system
- [reduction and diphthongisation of] high vowels (Russified in Bishkek, Kazakhified in Talas?)
- low vowels as related to rounding harmony
- The 9th vowel, phonemic?
- Figure out the stress system
- Sonority
- /r.l/ → [r.d], [r.l]?
- sonority of /n/ suffix-initially like glide?
By
- Age
- Urbanisation (city, village, steppe)
- Multilingualism (esp. influence from Russian (Bishkek), Kazakh (Talas), Uzbek (Osh))
- Tribe, apparently
Goals in Kyrgyzstan, round 1
- Improve own Kyrgyz skills
- Begin collecting lesser, non-experimental data
- Prepare experiments
- Consult with & work with local scholars
- Design experiments
- File for human subjects approval
- Data collection plan
- Decide on areas of most interest
- Plan travel
Goals in Kyrgyzstan, round 2
- Travel and collect data
- At least two people in at least two villages in each of 47 regions
- …
List of forms to elicit
Rounding harmony systems, How far through a word harmony spreads
- high front:
- C₀üC₁üC₁üC₁üC₀, C₀üC₁üC₁üC₁öC₀, C₀üC₁üC₁öC₁üC₀, C₀üC₁üC₁öC₁öC₀, C₀üC₁öC₁üC₁üC₀, C₀üC₁öC₁üC₁öC₀, C₀üC₁öC₁öC₁üC₀, C₀üC₁öC₁öC₁öC₀
- low front:
- C₀öC₁üC₁üC₁üC₀, C₀öC₁üC₁üC₁öC₀, C₀öC₁üC₁öC₁üC₀, C₀öC₁üC₁öC₁öC₀, C₀öC₁öC₁üC₁üC₀, C₀öC₁öC₁üC₁öC₀, C₀öC₁öC₁öC₁üC₀, C₀öC₁öC₁öC₁öC₀
- high back:
- C₀uC₁uC₁uC₁uC₀, C₀uC₁uC₁uC₁aC₀, C₀uC₁uC₁aC₁uC₀, C₀uC₁uC₁aC₁aC₀, C₀uC₁aC₁ıC₁ıC₀, C₀uC₁aC₁ıC₁aC₀, C₀uC₁aC₁aC₁ıC₀, C₀uC₁aC₁aC₁aC₀
- low back:
- C₀oC₁uC₁uC₁uC₀, C₀oC₁uC₁uC₁aC₀, C₀oC₁uC₁aC₁ıC₀, C₀oC₁uC₁aC₁aC₀, C₀oC₁oC₁uC₁uC₀, C₀oC₁oC₁uC₁aC₀, C₀oC₁oC₁oC₁uC₀, C₀oC₁oC₁oC₁oC₀
- notes:
- for each vowel, long and short version?
- unrounded variants for comparison?
Monopthongisation / diphthongisation
- base forms
- C₀iyiC₀, C₀üüC₀, C₀eeC₀, C₀ööC₀, C₀ooC₀, C₀aaC₀, C₀ıyıC₀, C₀uuC₀
- C₀iyC₀, C₀üyC₀, C₀eyC₀, C₀öyC₀, (C₀oyC₀, C₀aaC₀), C₀ıyC₀, C₀uyC₀
- grammatical forms (for phonological info)
- +NI, +NIN, +(s)I
- also, Ab+Ip → AAp & Am+Ip → AAmp
Tonogenesis
- C₀Vz.C₁V, C₀VzV, with various vowels
- with other things in place of z: s, d, G, b
Acoustic properties of vowel system
- Should fall out from other experiments?
The 9th vowel, phonemic?
- Words with ä
- Words with a
Figure out the stress system
- Should fall out from other experiments?
Organising Wordlist
- By form
- first experiment
- C₀üC₁üC₁üC₁üC₀
- C₀üC₁üC₁üC₁öC₀
- C₀üC₁üC₁öC₁üC₀
- C₀üC₁üC₁öC₁öC₀
- C₀üC₁öC₁üC₁üC₀
- C₀üC₁öC₁üC₁öC₀
- C₀üC₁öC₁öC₁üC₀
- C₀üC₁öC₁öC₁öC₀
- C₀öC₁üC₁üC₁üC₀
- C₀öC₁üC₁üC₁öC₀
- C₀öC₁üC₁öC₁üC₀
- C₀öC₁üC₁öC₁öC₀
- C₀öC₁öC₁üC₁üC₀
- C₀öC₁öC₁üC₁öC₀
- C₀öC₁öC₁öC₁üC₀
- C₀öC₁öC₁öC₁öC₀
- C₀uC₁uC₁uC₁uC₀
- C₀uC₁uC₁uC₁aC₀
- C₀uC₁uC₁aC₁uC₀
- C₀uC₁uC₁aC₁aC₀
- C₀uC₁aC₁ıC₁ıC₀
- C₀uC₁aC₁ıC₁aC₀
- C₀uC₁aC₁aC₁ıC₀
- C₀uC₁aC₁aC₁aC₀
- C₀oC₁uC₁uC₁uC₀
- C₀oC₁uC₁uC₁aC₀
- C₀oC₁uC₁aC₁ıC₀
- C₀oC₁uC₁aC₁aC₀
- C₀oC₁oC₁uC₁uC₀
- C₀oC₁oC₁uC₁aC₀
- C₀oC₁oC₁oC₁uC₀
- C₀oC₁oC₁oC₁oC₀
- for each vowel, long and short version?
- unrounded variants for comparison?
- second experiment
- C₀iyiC₀: biyik, iyin, iyil-, iyir-, жийиркен-, кийин
- C₀eyiC₀: чейин,
- C₀üüC₀: күү
- any verb ending in /I/, +U:
- C₀eeC₀: ээр, бээ, зээн(дүү), кээ, ээ
- C₀ööC₀: бөөт, жөө, жөөк, жөөл-, сөөк, сөөл, сөөмөй
- any verb ending in /E/, +U:
- C₀ooC₀: жооп, тоо, суроо, жоон, жоош, жоомарт, соода, самоор
- any verb ending in /A/, +U:
- C₀aaC₀: заар+, саа-, саадак, саамай, саат, сааль, таажы, таалай+, таамай, таан, таалим, тааны-, таарын-, таасир, жаан, жаа-, туу, туура, ураан
- C₀ıyıC₀: жыйырма, сыйын-, сыйыртмак
- C₀uyuC₀: суюк, уюк, уюм, уюл,
- C₀üyüC₀:
- C₀uuC₀: суу, уу,
- any verb ending in /U/, +U:
- C₀iyC₀: ийри, ийр-, ийне, ийке-, ийгилик, ий,
- C₀üyC₀: үй, сүй-, күй, үйлөн-, үйрөн-, үйрөт-,
- C₀eyC₀: сейрек
- C₀öyC₀: сөөмөй
- (C₀oyC₀)
- C₀ıyC₀: сый, сыйлык, сыйлуу,
- C₀uyC₀: уй,
- second, part 3 (if noun ending in diphthong:)
- all above +NI
- all above +NIN
- all above +(s)I
- second, part 2 (verbs:)
- Ab+Ip → AAp: таб-, чаб-, себ-,
- Am+Ip → AAmp:
- what about high vowels?
- third experiment
- C₀Vz.C₁V: изде-, жезде,
- nouns (+NI/+DA/+DAn/-): туз, сөз, муз, кыз, көз, каз, мазь, саз, сиз, түз,
- verbs (-DI/-GAn/-ÇU/-IL/etc): сүз-, сез-, суз-,
- C₀VzV: таза, база, бозо, козу (карын), изилде-,
- what about long vowels:
- adjs: кооз
- what about non-first syllables:
- C₀Vz.C₁V: изде-, жезде,
- third, part 2 (with other things in place of z: s, d, t, G, b, j)
- C₀Vs.C₀V:
- verbs: бас-
- nouns:
- C₀Vd.C₀V: куду, лада, убада
- C₀Vt.C₀V:
- verbs: күт-
- nouns: бут, сүт, сот, кут
- C₀VG.C₀V: тиги, жогот-, жогор+, жогол-, жигит, жигин(?), дагы
- C₀Vb.C₀V: тобо, саба, жибит, убада, чабан
- C₀Vj.C₀V: бажа
- C₀Vs.C₀V:
- fourth (words with ä/a:)
- назик, Байтик,
- first experiment