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|Language=Crimean Tatar | |Language=Crimean Tatar | ||
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|UNESCOstats=100,000 (Comrie in the Atlas of the world’s languages (1994): “Maria S. Polinsky advises me that the number of solid first language speakers of Crimean Tatar may not exceed 100,000”; census figures are much higher, but may be inflated); numbers include Krymchak (Judaeo-Crimean Tatar) | |UNESCOstats=100,000 (Comrie in the Atlas of the world’s languages (1994): “Maria S. Polinsky advises me that the number of solid first language speakers of Crimean Tatar may not exceed 100,000”; census figures are much higher, but may be inflated); numbers include Krymchak (Judaeo-Crimean Tatar) | ||
|UNESCOstatus=severely endangered | |UNESCOstatus=severely endangered | ||
|Estimate=400,000 speakers | |||
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Revision as of 22:32, 13 April 2009
<accesscontrol>CELG</accesscontrol> This page is here for organising thoughts for the Central Eurasian Language Grammars project.
This includes at to-do list and ideas on the name(s) of the volume(s).
The bulk of it, though, is ideas for organising the languages by volume (currently #Medium-density, #Low-density, #Critical, and #Extinct / Historic). Along with the languages in each section are UNESCO declarations about the relative endangerment of the language (including estimates of the number of speakers), and also ideas for who could write a chapter on the language.
There's also a few notes on #Size concerns.
To-do
Organisational stuff
- Determine general criteria for inclusion of a language.
- Decide on whether to include large numbers of Uralic and Iranic languages.
- Figure out criteria for what constitutes what kind of language for #Language Organisation. A rough explanation of current criteria appears on this wiki at Medium density languages.
Getting things moving
- Decide on people to contact,
Criteria
What makes a language worthy of being included?
Ideas:
- Perhaps some combination of consideration of number of speakers, lack of good materials, relevance to Central Eurasian cultural/linguistic complex?
Name
Ideas for what to name the various volumes go here:
- A linguist's {guide/guidebook/handbook/(desk) reference} {to/of/for/on} (the?) {Medium Density/Low Density/Critical/Extinct~Historical} languages of the Central Eurasian Sprachbund.
- A {guide/guidebook/handbook/(desk) reference} {to/of/for/on} (the?) {Medium Density/Low Density/Critical/Extinct~Historical} languages of the Central Eurasian Sprachbund for linguists!
Language Organisation
Languages are broken down by what volume they should occur in, and then genetic affiliation. Ideas for contributors are included with each language, as well as some info from UNESCO's Atlas of the World's Languages in Danger.
High-densityThese languages probably don't deserve a volume of their own: good stuff already exists on them!
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Medium-densityTurkic
Mongolic
IE
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Low-densityThese are low density languages. UNESCO rates most of these languages as unsafe or definitely endangered. Turkic
Mongolic
Tungusic
IE
Other
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CriticalThese are moribund and maybe recently dead languages. Many are classified by UNESCO as severely endangered, critically endangered, or extinct. Turkic
Mongolic
Tungusic
Uralic
IE
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Extinct / HistoricMost of these won't be able to have full grammars written on them, and many won't be able to have more than "present level of knowledge about the language" written. Maybe this volume should be of a slightly different nature. Turkic
Mongol-Xianbeic
IE
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Unsorted
- Bojnurdy (Iranian Turkic)
- UNESCO status: none
Size concerns
A decent-quality bare-bones grammar of a medium-density language would be a minimum of about 20 pages, and a more full grammar might be as much as 50 pages. This allows for a maximum of 10-20 languages per volume before a volume starts to get too big. On the level of the volume, do we stress quantity of languages, or quality of grammars (probably the former, but we do want to fit everything)? On the level of the individual language/grammar, we probably stress quality over size? These are things which need to be discussed.