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* şeşe - mother | * şeşe - mother | ||
* täwlik - day (24-hour period, not day time) | * täwlik - day (24-hour period, not day time) | ||
* sät - fortune (also 'moment', obvs ← Arabic) | |||
* usta- - hold | |||
* säbiy - baby | |||
** cf. Ottomon sabi | |||
** cf. Ossetian sabi | |||
** cf. Kurmanji sava | |||
** cf. Bashqort sabıy | |||
== Kyrgyz words == | == Kyrgyz words == | ||
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** cf. jup - even number, pair (from Persian?) | ** cf. jup - even number, pair (from Persian?) | ||
** cf. Manchu ''juwe'' - two | ** cf. Manchu ''juwe'' - two | ||
* qaqım - dandelion | |||
** cf. Uzbek ''qoqi'' | |||
* çordon - center (of city or spring) | |||
** cf. Latin ''centrum'' ← Greek ''kéntron'' (*ʦentro → *çontr → *çondər → *çordən) | |||
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* qorot- - waste | * qorot- - waste | ||
** cf. Manchu ''qoro'' - loss, damage | ** cf. Manchu ''qoro'' - loss, damage | ||
* çoy- - stretch | |||
* çayqa- - rinse (baş çayqa- - shake head) | |||
** cf. (kaz) şayqa- - shake | |||
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== Proposed etymologies == | == Proposed etymologies == | ||
Words on the above lists for which potential etymologies are discovered should be moved here. | Words on the above lists for which potential etymologies are discovered should be moved here. | ||
* | * Kir. ''köynök'', Kaz. ''köylek'', etc. "shirt" appears to be from Turkic ''köŋil'' "shirt" +AK | ||
* | * Kir. ''kelesoo'' "crazy/stupid", related to Persian ''kal(l)a'' "head" + Turkic ''soo'' "healthy/sober" ? | ||
* | * Kir. ''qarma'''- "grab, hold", related to Old/Middle Turkic ''qarva''-/''qarba''- "grope", cf. Turkish ''kavra''-, Yeniseian *''qarba''- - "grab" | ||
** <s>cf. Mongolic ''ğar'' - hand</s> | ** <s>cf. Mongolic ''ğar'' - hand</s> | ||
** <s>cf. WMo ''qarma-'' - rake up, gather together</s> | ** <s>cf. WMo ''qarma-'' - rake up, gather together</s> | ||
** <s>cf. Manchu ''qarma-'' - protect, safeguard</s> | ** <s>cf. Manchu ''qarma-'' - protect, safeguard</s> | ||
* Kir. ''mömö'' "fruit flesh", cf. Uzbek ''meva'', from Persian | |||
Latest revision as of 14:10, 22 July 2024
This page is here to collect words which do not seem to go back to Old Turkic and do not obviously come from a major contact language.
Kazakh words
- ayna - mirror
- awdar- - flip over, translate
- deŋgey - level
- qarmaq - fishing pole (cf. Kyrgyz qarma- below)
- şeşe - mother
- täwlik - day (24-hour period, not day time)
- sät - fortune (also 'moment', obvs ← Arabic)
- usta- - hold
- säbiy - baby
- cf. Ottomon sabi
- cf. Ossetian sabi
- cf. Kurmanji sava
- cf. Bashqort sabıy
Kyrgyz words
See also Kyrgyz words of Persian origin without Tajik cognates.
Nouns
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Adjectives and Adverbs
Verbs
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Proposed etymologies
Words on the above lists for which potential etymologies are discovered should be moved here.
- Kir. köynök, Kaz. köylek, etc. "shirt" appears to be from Turkic köŋil "shirt" +AK
- Kir. kelesoo "crazy/stupid", related to Persian kal(l)a "head" + Turkic soo "healthy/sober" ?
- Kir. qarma'- "grab, hold", related to Old/Middle Turkic qarva-/qarba- "grope", cf. Turkish kavra-, Yeniseian *qarba- - "grab"
cf. Mongolic ğar - handcf. WMo qarma- - rake up, gather togethercf. Manchu qarma- - protect, safeguard
- Kir. mömö "fruit flesh", cf. Uzbek meva, from Persian