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* şeşe - mother | * şeşe - mother | ||
* täwlik - day (24-hour period, not day time) | * täwlik - day (24-hour period, not day time) | ||
* sät - fortune (also 'moment', obvs ← Arabic) | |||
* usta- - hold | |||
* säbiy - baby | |||
** cf. Ottomon sabi | |||
** cf. Ossetian sabi | |||
** cf. Kurmanji sava | |||
** cf. Bashqort sabıy | |||
== Kyrgyz words == | == Kyrgyz words == | ||
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** cf. Manchu ''suihe'' - ear of grain; tassle, crest; end of whip | ** cf. Manchu ''suihe'' - ear of grain; tassle, crest; end of whip | ||
** cf. Manchu ''suihun'' - a large earring used by men | ** cf. Manchu ''suihun'' - a large earring used by men | ||
** cf. Khamnigan Mongol ''sīke~sēke/sıke'' - earrings | |||
* momposuy - candy | * momposuy - candy | ||
* juurqan - blanket | * juurqan - blanket | ||
** cf. Manchu jurhu - coloured coarse linen cloth | |||
* döŋ - hill | * döŋ - hill | ||
* çaŋ - dust | * çaŋ - dust | ||
* çaarçıq - fawn | * çaarçıq - fawn | ||
* çöntök - pocket | * çöntök - pocket | ||
** cf. Evenki ''čēmpu'', ''čemtu'', ''čempuli'', ''čompuli'' - sack | |||
** cf. Manchu ''čontoho'' - a hole or gap in wall or dike | |||
*** (''čontohojombi'' - form a hole or gap) | |||
* şakek - ring (jewelry) | * şakek - ring (jewelry) | ||
* qoqo - Adam's apple | * qoqo - Adam's apple | ||
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* deŋgeel - level (n.) | * deŋgeel - level (n.) | ||
* çöpürök - fabric | * çöpürök - fabric | ||
** cf. Old Uyghur ''çopra'' - rags | |||
** cf. Monoglic ''čoɣuda-sun'' - rags | |||
* toqoy - forest | * toqoy - forest | ||
* ayna - powder | * ayna - powder | ||
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* bağelek - cuff | * bağelek - cuff | ||
** cf. Turkic ''bağ-'' - tie (Kyrgyz ''boo'', ''bayla-'') | ** cf. Turkic ''bağ-'' - tie (Kyrgyz ''boo'', ''bayla-'') | ||
* çeke - forehead | * çeke - forehead (cf. çoqu - top of head) | ||
** cf. Middle Mongolian ''heki''/''hikin'' - head/front | |||
** cf. Middle Mongolian ''čoqu'' | |||
*** cf. Shary Yoghur ''šəgən'' - head | |||
*** cf. Khamnigan ''tsoxo'' - forehead | |||
** cf. Manchu ''šeŋgin'' - forehead | |||
* qaqı(m)gül - dandelion | * qaqı(m)gül - dandelion | ||
* bata - blessing | * bata - blessing | ||
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* jubay - member of a pair, spouse | * jubay - member of a pair, spouse | ||
** cf. jup - even number, pair (from Persian?) | ** cf. jup - even number, pair (from Persian?) | ||
** cf. Manchu ''juwe'' - two | |||
* qaqım - dandelion | |||
** cf. Uzbek ''qoqi'' | |||
* çordon - center (of city or spring) | |||
** cf. Latin ''centrum'' ← Greek ''kéntron'' (*ʦentro → *çontr → *çondər → *çordən) | |||
{{col-break}} | {{col-break}} | ||
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* mıjıqıy (adj) - killjoy | * mıjıqıy (adj) - killjoy | ||
* çaq - perfect-fitting | * çaq - perfect-fitting | ||
** cf. Manchu ''ciki'' - fit exactly | |||
* qooz - pretty (for inanimate things) | * qooz - pretty (for inanimate things) | ||
** cf. Mongolic ''ğo'a''/''ğoya'' - pretty | ** cf. Mongolic ''ğo'a''/''ğoya'' - pretty | ||
** cf. Manchu ''χojo'' - pretty | |||
* qoqus(tan) - suddenly | * qoqus(tan) - suddenly | ||
* melüün - warm (air) | * melüün - warm (air) | ||
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=== Verbs === | === Verbs === | ||
* mıjı(q)- - squeeze | * mıjı(q)- - squeeze | ||
** cf. Khamnigan Mongol - bajūxu (bajū-) | |||
* oodar- - flip over | * oodar- - flip over | ||
* taarın- - be/get offended | * taarın- - be/get offended | ||
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* çurqa- - run | * çurqa- - run | ||
** cf. Manchu ''çurxu-'' - for a road to go a distance | ** cf. Manchu ''çurxu-'' - for a road to go a distance | ||
* qorot- - waste | * qorot- - waste | ||
** cf. Manchu ''qoro'' - loss, damage | ** cf. Manchu ''qoro'' - loss, damage | ||
* çoy- - stretch | |||
* çayqa- - rinse (baş çayqa- - shake head) | |||
** cf. (kaz) şayqa- - shake | |||
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== Proposed etymologies == | == Proposed etymologies == | ||
Words on the above lists for which potential etymologies are discovered should be moved here. | Words on the above lists for which potential etymologies are discovered should be moved here. | ||
* | * Kir. ''köynök'', Kaz. ''köylek'', etc. "shirt" appears to be from Turkic ''köŋil'' "shirt" +AK | ||
* | * Kir. ''kelesoo'' "crazy/stupid", related to Persian ''kal(l)a'' "head" + Turkic ''soo'' "healthy/sober" ? | ||
* Kir. ''qarma'''- "grab, hold", related to Old/Middle Turkic ''qarva''-/''qarba''- "grope", cf. Turkish ''kavra''-, Yeniseian *''qarba''- - "grab" | |||
** <s>cf. Mongolic ''ğar'' - hand</s> | |||
** <s>cf. WMo ''qarma-'' - rake up, gather together</s> | |||
** <s>cf. Manchu ''qarma-'' - protect, safeguard</s> | |||
* Kir. ''mömö'' "fruit flesh", cf. Uzbek ''meva'', from Persian | |||
[[Category:Kyrgyz]] | [[Category:Kyrgyz]] | ||
Latest revision as of 14:10, 22 July 2024
This page is here to collect words which do not seem to go back to Old Turkic and do not obviously come from a major contact language.
Kazakh words
- ayna - mirror
- awdar- - flip over, translate
- deŋgey - level
- qarmaq - fishing pole (cf. Kyrgyz qarma- below)
- şeşe - mother
- täwlik - day (24-hour period, not day time)
- sät - fortune (also 'moment', obvs ← Arabic)
- usta- - hold
- säbiy - baby
- cf. Ottomon sabi
- cf. Ossetian sabi
- cf. Kurmanji sava
- cf. Bashqort sabıy
Kyrgyz words
See also Kyrgyz words of Persian origin without Tajik cognates.
Nouns
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Adjectives and Adverbs
Verbs
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Proposed etymologies
Words on the above lists for which potential etymologies are discovered should be moved here.
- Kir. köynök, Kaz. köylek, etc. "shirt" appears to be from Turkic köŋil "shirt" +AK
- Kir. kelesoo "crazy/stupid", related to Persian kal(l)a "head" + Turkic soo "healthy/sober" ?
- Kir. qarma'- "grab, hold", related to Old/Middle Turkic qarva-/qarba- "grope", cf. Turkish kavra-, Yeniseian *qarba- - "grab"
cf. Mongolic ğar - handcf. WMo qarma- - rake up, gather togethercf. Manchu qarma- - protect, safeguard
- Kir. mömö "fruit flesh", cf. Uzbek meva, from Persian